Let's face it: I became a PANERAI addict !

Discussion in 'Panerai Watches' started by Aston, Mar 22, 2010.

  1. Aston

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    Hi everybody!

    Well well well, that's my firt post here on this sub-forum, as I always consider that there was just one brand in the world: ROLEX.

    PANERAI ? Not for me, it's too big for my wirst. It's also too common, I don't like the dial.



    And this week end, a friend of mine told me to try his PAM111. "No, thanks that's definitely not for me, too big, too common, too blablabla..." But after 15 minutes, i finally surrendered "Well okay let's try it".

    And that was the eye-opener : it fits ! :thumbsup:
    And it is also really nice ! :love:

    Well let's face it: I became a new PANERAI fan !

    This morning, I ran to my AD to get a PANERAI Catalog (2009 Edition), and I began to look at different sources on the Net. Now I fear that I will soon have to call my banker...


    Never say never.

    :cheers:
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    Then just wait till the strap addiction starts! :eek: :eek:

    Can't wait to see your first PAM! :beardjump:
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    No doubt about it, Panerai make a very nice watch.
    I wouldn't call them common though. I'm yet to see one in the wild.

    I came close to getting one of the Submersible models a couple of years back. Very impressive looking pieces.
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    It's happen to me too a couple years back...lol!!!

    Welcome To PANERAI World...PANERAI, so much more than just a watch.
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    Will be looking for your thread of your first PAM. I haven't seen one in the wild but do like checking out this part of the forum to look at others.


    John
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    must agree i didnt think a panerai was more common than a rolex?
  7. Aston

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    That was clearly a preconceived idea and now I realized that I was 100% wrong.

    I continue my quest and I have short-listed some models: PAM312, PAM351 or PAM359. Here are the reasons why:

    - Manufacture movement (mandatory)
    - No magnifier on the date (I like it on Rolex but not on Panerai, don't ask me why...)
    - Automatic (also mandatory)
    - 44mm (hey it's a Panerai or not?!)

    It should be a PAM312, as the other are currently not available.

    But there's one last question: what about the thickness ? As I have a small wrist, I'm afraid it will no fit .

    I've try the PAM111 and it fitted well so could some experts here explain me please if there a huge difference between these two cases (PAM111 & PAM312) ? What are the thickness of each one?

    Thanks :wink:
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    maybe worth a look at a good panerai forum (paneristi) loads of knowledge on there :thumbsup:
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    The PAM 312 is almost as thich as the Rolex Deepsea (which is 17.68mm)..
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  11. Aston

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    Thanks for your replies, and also for the picts Saif :wink:

    Well I'm afraid the PAM312 will be too big for me. It looks also bigger than the DSSD, that already doen't fit for me :roll:

    Referring to my prerequisites,:
    - Manufacture movement
    - No magnifier on the date
    - Automatic (that's really mandatory)
    - sandwich dial
    - 44mm

    which one then could fit the best ?

    :worship:
  12. Aston

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    Thanks for the tip Adrian :thumbsup:
    Hey this TKF sub-forum is also a good one by the way :wink:
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    I'd go for the PAM 270 then (10 Days GMT [automatic])... it's slimmer than the 312 and 44mm. Has an in-house movt., sandwich dial, superdomed crystal (which is REALLY nice! :drool: ), date, no cyclops.
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    Thanks bo :thumbsup:

    I thought that the PAM270 has the same case as the PAM312 (1950 case) :thinking:
    Are they really different ?
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    hey i meant a more dedicated forum not that this is a bad one:thumbsup:
    according to the catalog the 270 is 8mm thick and the 312 is 7.9mm ...

    what size wrists do you have ? mine are 7.1" and my 328 (312 on a bracelet) fits nice although sometimes feels abit heavy..
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    Sorry, you're right. Mixed it up with the PAM 233 8 Days GMT which is thinner (but manually wound which you don't want).
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    I know Adrian, I was just kidding :wink:

    In fact that's the thick of the P9000 movement.

    My wrist size is 6,7" , not that big uh ?!
    But the PAM111 I've tried fitted nice.
    I've also tried a PAM275 (same "1950" case as the PAM312 that I'm looking for) and that was OK.

    But I compared with a DSSD and I found this one thicker :thinking:

    No prob Bo, thanks for your help :thumbsup:


    The last barrier for me: the after sales service. That's a big question, because it seems that the quality is not so good. I've noticed differences between countries, according to different sources.

    What is please your feedbacks concerning this point ?

    :drinks:
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    Not sure if it's a policy in all of Europe, but at least in Germany, after sales service leaves a lot to be desired.

    You cannot even have a simple task like a regulation done by your AD within the warranty (guarantee) period... you would have to send the watch to the nearest Panerai service centre to have it regulated.

    I've heard of LONG waiting times to get a watch back sent in for just a simple adjustment of the timekeeping. Also, although Panerai often claims that all parts needed for service are readily availible, but sometimes you have to wait months on end to get your watch back (I read of an instance where a customer first got his Panerai back after NINE months!) :eek:
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    9 months ??? :crazy: :runaway:

    In these conditions, that will be for sure a no go for me :nono:

    Why PANERAI have a such bad quality after sales service? Maybe it's because they are not structured according to the high demand they recently generated.
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    Panerai's service center is shared with other watch brands within the Richmont group. Between all of the different brands, I would imagine they receive a HUGE volume of watches to be serviced and don't have adequate staff to turn them around fast enough. That'd be my guess anyway. :cheers: