No Compromises!

Discussion in 'Panerai Watches' started by SPACE-DWELLER, Apr 23, 2009.

  1. SPACE-DWELLER

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    Having given Panerai watches a lot of thought, I think I'll pass on the PAM 312 and go for the Panerai that REALLY makes my heart beat faster.

    I know it's gonna be tough - and expensive - to get hold of one, but anything less won't do it.

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    (Pics from a German watch forum).
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    Tried it on recently and believe it fits my wrist well:

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    Bo,

    That is a nice looking PAM127 and it looks good on your wrist. Nice pictures. I agree, if you are going to get one, get the one that you really want. It'll be worth the effort. :thumbsup:


    John
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    Well, IMHO, it is a nice watch and I have tried several of them on before, but way way overpriced for what you get. It is kind of like throwing $10K down the drain, since that is about how much overpriced they are. Plus, you might want to be sure to wear the watch for a longer period of time first, as after awhile it is a pretty heavy watch and IMHO does not hang right on the wrist, so you have to really tighten the strap up. Plus, it only has 100m WR compared to most other Luminor Marinas with Unitas movement that have 300 m WR (not that many dive below or swim below 30ms, but still a 300m watch is better WR). In my opinion, the 127 is more of a cheap Replica watch, made to replicate the original Panerais of 47m that were not worn with civilian attire but strapped to the outside of a very few Italian divers and had Rolex movements. Personally, If I was you Bo, i would go for the 233 if looking for a really great Panerai. Or a 221 or 279 or one of the newer bracelet models (well, just because I am back into Bracelets instead of straps due to less maintenance required). Cheers.
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    Does that have an ETA movement, Bo? It looks like the same movement that was in my PAM 111.
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    Yes, it's an ETA Unitas (OP Cal. X).
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    :drool::drool::drool:
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    Bo, may I know what so special about PAM127? Besides its 47mm, limited production.... can anyone enlighten me please? :thinking:
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    Chad pretty much nailed it, Dennis. Nothing "special" about the PAM 127 in terms of mvt. specs (ETA Unitas), but you'd buy this specific PAM for its correct historical appearance (large - 47MM - "Fiddy" case, 3-6-9-12 "Sandwich" dial, gold hands against black dial).
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    I wouldn't do it, Bo. You know how much I love Panerai, but this watch isn't worth $10k IMHO. MAYBE it'd be worth it if you were getting an in-house movement, but you're not even getting that. IMHO that watch with an in-house movement would be worth around $8k. With the ETA that's currently in it, I'd say it's worth more like $6k. I hope I'm not offending anyone here, that's not my intent at all, I really DO love Panerai watches!
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    Bo, I still prefer PAM233 over PAM127....

    PAM233 in-house movement (wins) PAM127 ETA movement
    PAM233 8 days power reserve (wins) PAM127 3days?
    PAM233 GMT function (wins) PAM127 NA
    PAM233 Date function (wins) PAM127 NA


    PAM127 47mm case (wins) PAM233 44mm case
    PAM127 limited & special edition (wins) PAM233

    PAM127 gold hands (draw) PAM233 beautiful hands :dummy:
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    Agreed. The movement isn't anything to write home about but at least it's a bulletproof mvt.

    As for the PAM 233, I am hesitating since 1)there have been so many reports about faults in the Cal. 200X mvt., especially the Cal. 2002 in the PAM 233 that's been reported to often have power reserve issues. Yes, JYOgi was very lucky with his Panerai in terms of power reserve (10+ days) but had issues with the accuracy of the mvt.; 2)the dial has been changed in favour of an AM/PM indicator.

    Maybe I should go for the PAM 312, after all? :thinking: It does have an in-house movement, too, but is much less complicated than the Cal. 2002. Only thing that bugs me is that it hasn't got a superdomed crystal.
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    :rofl::rofl::rofl:

    Bo is confused now.... :thinking:


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    What's more important... the crystal or the movement? I'd be more concerned with having an in-house movement than a superdomed crystal. Of course, the decision is yours, Bo. It's your money and you should spend it on what YOU want. I'll be psyched for you either way, but IMHO the 312 seems to be the better watch for the money. :cheers:
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    Yes, it is kind of confusing what to go for since the PAM 127 has certain things I miss on the PAM 312 and vice versa. :banghead:
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    I recall that you voted for the only slightly domed crystal instead of the superdomed one in my poll. How come you'd prefer an only slightly domed crystal?
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    Is PAM127 selling at a premium in the states now? It is selling around S$25000 (US$16700) in Singapore now.... pity expensive watch for me....:cheers:
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    Because it distorts one's view of the dial. The picture you attached to that thread is a perfect demonstration of this.
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    It sure is an advantage to be able to read the time, also when the watch is viewed from an angle. The DISadvantage is that the superdomed crystal just looks so cool! Again it's a choice between what's practical and what's attractive.

    BTW.: The only slightly domed crystal of the Rolex Deepsea Sea-Dweller distorts the dial and hands even more than the superdomed one of the Panerai watches. :banghead: