Heard today on several other watch forums the new Explorer II will be priced at $8700 US for MSRP!!!!!!!:thumbsdown::crazy: (of course this is the conversion price from Euros from what the list price will be over there, so hopefully not the same here in the USA) If this is true, this is too high and I think will be a big disappointment. Definitely will not be getting a white and black one if true, and will really have to consider even getting one unless can get a discount which will not happen probably for awhile. I think around $7k would be a more fare price, and even that is pushing the boundaries. :banghead::crazy: Will have to wait and see. Hopefully exchange rate for the US Dollar will go up again against the Malaysian R. (well good for us Americans at least), as Malaysia not having any VAT tax on luxury watches, I have always found Malaysia the place with the best deals on Rolex watches. Rolex makes a great product, but their continual price increases is getting a little out of control. Miss the days when you could get a good deal on a Rolex sports model at the Army PX.