bracelet stretch

Discussion in 'Vintage Rolex Watches' started by morgan1105, Aug 31, 2011.

  1. morgan1105

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    Right now, I am saving for my first Rolex. But, I am on the fence about which model to get and would appreciate your input. I can't decide between the submariner and a steel and white gold DJ. One worry I have about the DJ is bracelet stretch. How long would it take the gold in the bracelet to stretch a noticeable amount? It is worth saying, I don't plan on wearing the watch everyday. How long did it take for your bracelet to stretch?
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    Will take long time, try 30 years or more before you would even notice any bracelet stretch. Probably even twice as long with the new style solid link bracelets. Not even a concern or something to worry about.

    Get the 41mm Datejust II.
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    Not sure if true, but I was once told stretching is due to folks who wear the bracelet really loose. I have had a GMT Rolex since 1983 and it shows little to no stretching. Just my $0.02 worth.
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    Just in case there is any confusion, I am talking about the gold stretching, not the steel. I have seen some pre-owned TT DJs and the gold seems to stretch within ten years.
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    I thought it was the "pins" that loosened up in the links that made the bracelets looked stretched? :thinking:
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    Sorry if this is a dumb question, but can the pins be replaced? If so, how much would that cost?
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    Dirty Bracelet=lots of wear real quick.
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    We all saw what that Oyster bracelet Looked like and It was less than 10 years old.

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    Now the flip side of this IS I have the same bracelet "93150" on a properly maintained watch from 1989 that looks great with only minor wear. So change your oil and clean your watch.
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    Ok they aren't the same bracelet 93150 was the predecessor but you get the idea
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    Naaaa, it's the links that wear on the Goldbracelets not so much the pins as we know, Gold is soft, and the higher the goldcontent [18kt for most Rolex], the softer/faster it will wear.
    However, it will take a while, decades in fact before real wear set in when worn in no extrem condition and the new solidcentre or solid Jubilee bracelet will take a while, very long while, so JUST enjoy buying a great watch, Mate:thumbsup:

    PS: If You are really concerned, some people after they buy a watch remove the genuine bracelet, wack on a aftermarket for wear and tear and when it comes to resell the good genuine goes back on!
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    I honestly don't know if my assumption of the pins being stretched is the right answer. I have searched numerous forums looking for a real "technical" answer to the cause of the Jubilee getting loose and the means to repair it, but there does not seem to be a consensus that I can find.

    I would not let the "potential" of a bracelet getting loose over decades of wear stop me from the decision to purchase a watch. If that was all that was holding me back and I felt strongly about it, you can always source a second bracelet in a few years by sending it in for service without one and buy a new one or buy a second hand one.
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    :thumbsup::thumbsup:

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    Good choice with the Datejust II since that one has an Oyster bracelet which I consider stronger than the Jubilee bracelet that is not availible for the DJ II, yet...




    "Stretch" is really not a good term..

    "Worn" would be better...

    What happens - as Roscoe suggests - is that dirt and grime collects between the links. That dirt literally acts as sandpaper, grinding the metal away!

    Also, as Dex says, wearing the watch loosely on the wrist makes things worse... it's simply the law of gravity: the more the watch head pulls on the links, the more wear you'd get on the links.

    As for the Jubilee versus the Oyster bracelet, as Chad pointed out, the new bracelets do have solid centre links, but I would consider the Oyster bracelet stronger than the Jubilee bracelet simply because it has less links..

    Best advice is to 1) wash your watch and bracelet say once a week in lukewarm water and mild, liquid soap (no balsam in it!) or use Veraet Watch Spray, AND 2) wear the watch pretty "snug" on the wrist (snug meaning that you can put your little finger under the clasp).
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    I gave up trying to get people to stop using the word "stretch" as nothing really stretches - it's just plain wear.

    I agree that regular cleaning will help a lot. Ideally if you have an ultrasonic cleaner, you could remove the bracelet and clean it in that (don't put the watch head in the ultrasonic, just the bracelet). A steam cleaner could also be helpful, but I use the ultrasonic tank as I don't have a steam unit.

    I can tell you with cleaning hundreds of bracelets, even something that looks clean isn't. A few minutes in an ultrasonic tank and you can see lots of dirt and debris coming from the "clean" bracelet. One reason I wear straps! :thumbsup:

    Whatever you use to clean your bracelet with, make sure it does not leave a residue, as that can trap more dirt and you are right back to the wear happening.

    Cheers, Al
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    Wear the watch and enjoy it. As for which model, try them on and see which one speaks to you.


    John
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    Keep it clean. Wash it after a trip to the beach etc... Let it soak then wash.
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    It's no issue if you won't wear it every day as you said.
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    Naaaa, it's the links that wear on the Goldbracelets not so much the pins as we know, Gold is soft, and the higher the goldcontent [18kt for most Rolex], the softer/faster it will wear

    Almost correct but 18K gold is generally harder than 9k gold.
    The 18k gold mix can make it harder than 9k gold.
    A common misconception IMO.

    http://www.18carat.co.uk/hardnessofgoldalloys.html
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    Great info and link, Eddie! :goodpost:
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