Circa 1930 Rolex desktop clock ??

Discussion in 'Vintage Rolex Watches' started by wyldkatt, Jun 23, 2011.

  1. wyldkatt

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    Hello all-
    This is my first post, so I hope I don't make any mistakes.

    I was told that there are knowledgeable experts here who could answer my queries.

    I've recently accquired this Rolex desk clock, circa 1930.

    I missed Christies "Timepieces" auction, where I was going to put this up,
    so I may have to throw it up on "feebay".
    Before doing so though, I was hoping to get a little more backround, on this model,
    as well as an idea of what it might expect to bring at auction.

    Christies has sold this model, so has Sotheby's.
    But I'm unable to find the realized prices.
    I havn't been able to get anything from Rolex, either.

    So if any forum members recognize this clock, and can help answer my questions,
    it would be greatly appreciated.
    So, here it is;
    Roly desk model.jpg

    thanks to all,
    ~wyldkatt~
  2. colemanitis

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    Welcome to TKF. Our accessories experts will be along shortly to help you out. :cheers:
  3. wyldkatt

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    thank you very much.
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    I'm going to move this to the Watch Accessories forum. :cheers:
  5. WatchTimes

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    Try to get some more pics of it, straight down on the dial,
    the bottom of the case and the sides for the real pros (Im not one but I will tell you what I am sure of)

    It is not from the 30's....... If it was from the 30's it would not have the gold
    surronds on the hour markers nor would it have that style hands. Rolex introduced
    the cyclops with the 6542 I am pretty sure which first debuted at Basel in in 1954
    also the 50's were when Rolex first introduced sports/tool watches. The desk clock
    you posted is meant to look like a Submariner dial I would have to say and I would guess
    this to be from the 70's or 80's

    In 1954, Rolex ... produced a small number of ref. 6200 Submariners. This was the first Submariner (although not the first Rolex) to make use of the Mercedes hand set (a feature of all subsequent Submariners).

    From Keep The Time website " The use of the iconic Mercedes symbol has no connection to Mercedes Benz, or the story of Mercedes Gleitze who admirably swam across the English Channel in 1927 wearing a Rolex Oyster. The Mercedes symbol is a three pointed star (Rising Star) with each point representing the three modes of transport: land, air, and sea. It has been incorporated into the design of the Rolex sports line (Submariner, GMT-Master, Explorer, etc). The consensus out there amongst the aficionados of the watch world is that the Rising Star symbol is not only a great design but also functional. Its purpose is to hold the lume component of the watch and provide visibility of the hour hand when it is overlapped by the minute hand."
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    thanks JYogi.

    I got the circa 1930 thing, from a Southeby's description.
    Guess their research leaves much to be desired eh?

    Oh well.
    Hoping this model has a name and number, and production dates,
    so I can include it in my description, when I go to sell.

    I hope to get some more pics posted in the next couple of days, also.

    Did you happen to know any values for it JYogi?

    thanks again.
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    Looks :coolanimated: but like Jeremy said it would help a lot to see a few more pictures from different angles etc :cheers:
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    I'll get more pics up on Friday.
    I'll have to go pick it up at the bank, to take pics.
  9. Pete17

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    I'm pretty sure it was made in the 1970's or early 80's.
    it is definitely not a 1930's item.
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    It was made in 1985
    Its a battery operated movement.
    Value varies, I saw one after searching through some auction
    catalogs from the auction house here in Detroit a few years back
    It sold for $1200 the estimate was $1000-2000 but that was at the peak
    still a unique item.
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    Right. There were no Quartz movements in the 30's nor was that design born yet.
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    A very nice deskclock indeed, if You take more pics, try the underside with the Quartzmovement:thumbsup:
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    Welcome to TKF! :cheers:

    I would agree it's from the early 1980ies... it's made a resemble a "Rootbeer" (brown dialed) GMT with the socalled "Nipple" hour markers.
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    SDC10539.JPG SDC10540.JPG SDC10538.JPG SDC10541.JPG SDC10542.JPG SDC10534.JPG
    Okay, here are some pics folks.
    Sorry Kiwi, I'm not qualified to remove the back, so no quartz movement shots on this one.
    Thanks for the replies, keep em coming. thanks for the PM's as well.
    Maybe you folks can look it over this week-end, and help me ID, and appraise, this beauty.

    I'm not sure about those posted values though.
    No disrespect meant, but I have seen this clock bring 4600 Euros, in a Swiss Auction sometime last year.
    So, I'm a little confused at one going for $1200.
    Did it work?
    Because this one does.

    I took it to a watchmaker, and Rolex dealer, here in the Phoenix area, to have it serviced,
    and cleaned up for auction, along with a battery replacement.
    The gentleman said, he had not seen one, in over 30 years of handling Rolex watches,
    but suggested that he only replace the battery.
    He said,"the people who want this, will want it in as original condition, as they can get it".
    So, I passed on the cleaning, and polishing, as I was directed.

    thanks again to all
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    Well, Mate, never mind about removing the back, from what I can see, this is as genuine as it gets, You have indeed a treasure on Your hand:worship:

    This would have been for sure early 80's release, as the YG models with nippledials got introduced around 82 [from memory], and this clock haveing the date function as well is truly unique.
    As for the price, of course it would of reached the price You mentioned, but in saying this, all depends where and how well it is advertised in the collectorworld, could even go higher if auctioned in Hongkong, as most of the elite shop there for unique items.
    I did come arcoss one few years back on a e.baysale in italy, didn't save any info unfortunatly as at the time it was way out of my league and don't know the final saleprice or if it sold at all.
    Guess if You want to sell, make sure to put a good reserve on, even to test the market, but I would keep it, it can only go up in value:thumbsup:

    By the way, the material should be solid brass:thinking:
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    That's a real good looking clock! Wow! :thumbsup:
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    Listen auctions often are BS... Many auction houses have had auctions where the companies
    come in and bid up the sales.

    You go to an auction house you will have to pay a large catalog fee as well as a % of your sale
    You will also be taxed on the sale, the report all sales so take that all into consideration.

    I am confused how you would have thought it was a 30's watch when you saw it sell at other auctions?
    I do not see how all these auction houses could have screwed something that big up in their description.

    The smallest value items Sothebys will start with in the US is $5000. (multiple items can be sold to make that total) or 3000 British pounds for their London house.

    Either way I hope your sale goes well, I would REALLY suggest avoiding Ebay unless you are a vet seller with LOTS of feedback
    as if not many will question the legitimacy and authenticity of the item.
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    and if anyone is a member of "live auctioneers",
    they can tell us what this one went for;
    http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/3338294
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    That surely is a very nice looking clock:worship:! Hope you sell it for a very decent price!:thumbsup:
    Welcome to TKF!:cheers: